PART 1. Interview With Samuel Booker Minor
On December 26, 1998, I drove to the home of my cousin Samuel Booker Minor on Wayside Road in Woodville Mississippi.
As I was driving, I thought about as a young kid how me and my brothers went down these winding roads with our grandfather Henry Blakes in his forest green pick-up truck, for the final 2 weeks of our summer-long stay with our grandparents. As he was turning s-curves down the all too familiar winding roads at 80 mph, he would always say, “Now when you boys start driving, don’t drive as fast as I’m driving.”
For years, I was told by my kinfolk to go talk to Booker Minor if you want to know about the history of the Edgefield Plantation community in Woodville. Although I was not skeptical of what I was told, I was cautious about what to expect.
I called earlier that day and asked for an interview with Cousin Booker. He was ready when I drove up to the house. Greeted by his nephew, Halle Minor, I entered the house, exchanged greetings, handed him a bottle of Old Spice after shave lotion as a gift and sat down with my tape recorder to interview him. I told him when my father died, my mother would always have us take our Grandpa Henry, a Christmas gift – a bottle of Old Spice for Christmas.
We were the only ones in the house and as I sat down at the table with him, he was eating a large plate of Christmas food — stuffed bell peppers, cakes and pies, which he continued to eat throughout the more than 3-hour interview. He said Halle’s mother, Ma Bea, who was a great cook, had cooked it for him. We talked for a while and I told him how my grandmother, Ma Bess, was a great cook also. He talked about syrup, which his family used to make with the mill they owned, and how the modern-day food, especially the biscuits, didn’t taste the same.
We talked for a while longer and he wanted to know who I was. I told him who my parents were, that I grew up in Baton Rouge but came to Woodville and spent the summers with my grandparents, and now I lived in Dallas. I had just driven in from my grandmother’s house on Donegal Road. He knew all the older branches of my maternal family who now lived on the former James Alexander Stewart Plantation, or as Booker Minor called them “Stewart People” – the Veal, Lewis, McQuerter, and Payne families. He wanted to know who was still alive since he had been in a wheelchair for some years and didn’t get out much anymore. Once I told him I was Nathaniel Blakes’ son, he knew more about my family than I would ever know, and likewise, they knew more about him than he would tell.
Most importantly, he also wanted to know if I was doing this interview for a family history project or for a school project or work. Once I established that I was doing this because I wanted to know the history of the family, he was ready to talk.
He told me who he was and when he was born and the oral history of the Edgefield families for generations.
“I make my 95 on the 29th of February next two months. I was born 1900 and 4 on the 29th day of February… I was born on Edgefield, my Daddy was born on Edgefield…
“Ned Percy’s daughter Anna she was the niece of my grandma Anna, her sister’s child… She married Anannias Blakes. She said her grandpa, her Daddy or grandpa, was telling her about it. See we was Percys, but by marrying and marrying we come to be Minors and Turners. The girls marry out of the family you see, and that’s where they bring these different names…”
“…when you marry, your plantation don’t matter. Your husband would carry you… or maybe your wife would carry you to live with her people, or maybe you would bring her to live with your people… See, my mother she was raised over there on Woodstock – the Hollands, her mama was a Holland, and her daddy was a Self – Dave Self. And daddy went and married her, and he brought her on over here on Edgefield.”
During the interview, I shared with Booker Minor that I had just returned from Guinea, West Africa in January 1998. On my trip to Africa, I heard the family historians – djelis or griots, playing their musical instruments called Koras, reciting generation after generation of family history. Reflecting back on this interview, it dawned on me that he was following the same tradition, reciting from memory, in cadence, generation after generation of family history.
He talked about and was most proud of his granddaddy, Papa Pharaoh Minor and his grandmother Anna Turner, and her sister Ma Celeste, who was my great grandmother. He talked about Ma Celeste’s husband Henry Blakes, who he called Old Henry, the father of my grandfather, who he called Little Henry Blakes. On and on he talked about the long history of the families on the Edgefield plantation. Fortunately, much of the early and recent Edgefield family history he told me about has been written down in excellent family reunion books by my cousin Susie Minor Boudreaux.
I was here to record and hear it all first-hand, to understand the proud legacy of these families, to make my own connection and to own it – all the family history, good and bad.
I had done some preliminary research on the Blakes, Turner, James, Percy and Minor families – mainly census research back to 1870, and I had asked a few questions around the family. I wanted to know how the name Percy was affiliated with our family. My great-grandfather Henry Blakes, born in 1855, was listed as the 22-year-old son of Hannah Percy in the 1880 census, and so far, no one could tell me what the connection was. I wanted to know about the Percy connection.
After talking for a while, I popped the question.
“How are we connected to the slaveholder Percy?
And this was his answer:
“Now listen! They tell me in slavery time this Edgefield track of land here, this section of land, you know the government was letting it out to them soldiers, and this here fellow from West Baton Rouge, this Edgefield track of land was deeded to him.
You know it just went from family to family until Dr. Patrick came from New York and married a widow and he (Patrick) came into possession of it. Well, the Percys, they come here, they was the ones brought his half-white/colored family with him on an ox-wagon from West Baton Rouge.”
And just like that, Samuel Booker Minor told me, as I have now come to understand, the foundational history of the Blakes, Minors, Turners, Percys, Plains, Andersons, Youngs, Palmers and other related families on Edgefield Plantation in Woodville Mississippi as he remembered it. From around 1777 when Charles Percy, the first slaveowner arrived, the plantation was passed down from “family-to-family” or slaveowner-to-slaveowner, until 1865, the death of the last slaveowner Dr. J. C. Patrick.
The interview went on and it was about to get dark outside. He told me he had an extra bedroom and asked me if I wanted to spend the night. I told him I had to return back to Dallas the next morning, so I declined. As the old folks often warned, he was going to “talk you to death.”
After making it back home after the interview my job was easy. If I wanted to know the connection of the Percy name to my family story, all I had to do was take the next 10 years or so and find out exactly what the hell he was talking about!
And that’s exactly what I did.
Next: The House of Percy
Thank ya Alvin for showing the way
Thanks for reading. And thank you for keeping the light lit all these years in Natchez, Mississippi.
Hello family I was reading what you wrote Alvin I am 2nd to 3rd cousin to Patrick who is related to Stirgus and Boudreaux as you know the Palmers were on Woodstock along with the Stewart’s and Cage and Ventress can’t wait to talk to you we have a lot of info to share
Hello Lillie my name is Lillian Lanus I would like to speak with you about some information you may have that died with my or maybe our family. I am the granddaughter of Lillian (Palmer) Lanus from Baton Rouge and Ernest Lanus of Woodville Ms.
Lillian let’s talk. I will send you my email address and phone number.
Hi my last name is also Lanus. My grandparents are from Woodville Ms. Just wow
My last name is Lanus. My grandparents are from Woodville Lms. There’s so many things. I wanna know about them
Thanks for sharing your story, I don’t know anything about Woodville, but I am a Descendant of Gaines, Stewart and Bethley of Woodville, Alexander Stewart founder of Mt Ollie Baptist church is my gg grandfather, I have had any luck at finding out who’s his parents were, He may have been the son of one the Stewart brother’s that own Stewart Plantation
Hi Dwight, I believe I am related to Alexander Stewart, email me at Chowningdesmon@yahoo.com to discuss.
Fords, browns and bethleys family here.
Hi Tammy,
I am a Ford descendant. Elijah Ford married to Eliza were my great grandparents from Woodville Mississippi.
Later moved to St. Francisville, La
Janet Patrick Bates
Hi my grandfather name was Hull my Father name was Theodore Hull I lived on donegal rd could you tell me more about Stewart plantation
Alvin,
My maternal great-grandmother is Phoebe Booker Fields. Is she related to your Bookers?
Brian, thanks for reading. I don’t know if my family is related to the Bookers. However, the Bookers and Fields were some of the names I have seen from the earliest times in the Wilkinson County records. I personally know some of the Bookers that moved from Woodville to Hammond LA. Are you related to the Bookers of Hammond LA? Also, I will be writing about Reconstruction in Wilkinson County and I see this is one of your research areas. Maybe we can connect and discuss further.
I remember some of those long conversations with cousin Booker. I always use to enjoy visiting with him whenever I was in the area.
Love the story Alvin. Now I need to do a surname search for the names you mentioned.
Thanks Gerri.
I would like to know more about the Young’s. As far back as I could go back was an Walker Young.
James. I found some of the Young family members on Edgefield. I will be showing the connection of all the Edgefield Family Groups in this series of blogs.
Thanks, will continue to read your post.
Thanks for reading James.
If I’m not mistaken the Young families are connected to the Hays(Hayes) from Woodville, Mississippi
Hi,my mother was Bessie Mae Clayton,her mother was Bessie Young,and I believed Hester Young was her grandmother only guessing,most have expired,Her father was Roosevelt Clayton
Wow!! I know a few Minors that live in West Baton Rouge who say they are from Woodville Ms. Is it possible that we are related?
Hey nephew. Thanks for reading. Tell your Minor friends to subscribe to the blog and I will be telling their family history back to the 1800.
Yes they are
Great information!
Thanks for reading.
Alvin,
This is excellent. I too spoke to cousin Booker. But unfortunately I don’t know what happened to my recording. He in fact was a historian and his memory was excellent. I can not wait to read about The House of Percy! Thank you so much! Evelyn Davis
Evelyn. I am finally getting around to telling the Blakes story on Edgefield.
Can you help others to find information about their family?
Brenda thanks for reading. I am ready to help when you are ready.
Wow! Such an awesome article! Thanks for sharing. I was raised during my childhood in Pinkeyville, not far from the Minor family. I grew up knowing Ms. Bea and Halle Minor! The families are extended and intertwined. It’s just amazing to be able to read such familiar text and know some of the people being discussed. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for reading.
Wow!! What great HISTORY, I have some history but nothing like this Book. Thank you so much for sharing your Information. My Great Grandmother (Mary Bell Blakes-Dalton), My Grandfather (Nathaniel James)
Doris thanks for reading. Nathaniel James was my grandmother Elizabeth James Blakes’ brother. My dad was named Nathaniel – most likely my grandmother named him honoring her brother. I will be writing about their father George James (born 1865) and his father George James (born 1820), and the Woodstock Plantation in the future. Let’s stay in touch.
My grandfather was Joseph McQuirter who married my granny, Betsy Cain McQuirter. They were both from Woodville, a place where many relatives still reside. The McQuirter name has many spellings but I believe they are one in the same. My knowledge of my grandparent’s family is very vague due living elders not knowing much as well. It has been said we are related to the Veals, Minors, etc. and we claim this lineage. However, it has never been established how we are related. Thank you for your work.
Debra thanks for reading. I am proud to tell you that I have done quite a bit of research on our McQuerter ancestors. McWhorter was the original name. It is also spelled McQuerter/ McQuarter/ McWhirter, McQuaiter, etc. – not a big deal. Our ancestor Phil McWhorter (born 1844) was a soldier in the Civil War and fought in Company A, 81st Regiment, U.S. Colored Infantry. His father, Phil McWhorter (born f1802), was brought from Alabama to Woodville. Go to Resources/ Podcasts and listen to BlogTalk Radio Episode: The Civil War Pension File of Phil McWhorter. Let’s stay in touch.
My grandmother name was Julia cain she married sinclair plain . She had brothers and sisters that’s was in Amite, Hammond and baton rogue. They was from woodville ms later move to the delta
Yes you are related to the Veals my uncle Willie Veal (Veals) married a Mcquarter we are family
My great grandmother was Fammie/Fannie Veal. She married my grandfather John (Jack) Gaines.
My aunt Eliza Gaines born late 1800′ s second husband was Phil McQuirter, her brother John ‘Jack’ Gaines was married to Fammie Veal.
Hey Dwight. Good to meet you. My cousin Dwight Bethely told me about you.Our ancestor Phil McWhorter (born 1844) was a soldier in the Civil War and fought in Company A, 81st Regiment, U.S. Colored Infantry. His son Phil McQuerter was born around 1875. I think this is the one you are speaking of. When you have some time, go to my blog menu Resources/ Podcasts and listen to my BlogTalk Radio Episode: The Civil War Pension File of Phil McWhorter. Let’s stay in touch.
My mom and dad were born in Woodville Mississippi. As a of today. My dad is currently living in Woodville Mississippi. Wow what a conincidence.
Hi Dwight,
Jack and Fammie Gaines are my great grandparents. I am the granddaughter of their youngest child, Catherine Gaines.
Even though I’m not from Mississippi I’m from Alabama just next door and I heard similar stores and rituals no one could explain but the family still carried it on.
So now, Mr Blake I want to hear the Percy’s connection!!
Willie, thanks for reading. Many of our stories are similar.
Awesome read…..I too remember the talks my uncle Samuel would give us at family reunions.. I would love to get in contact with you and continue this transfer of information…
Brian, let’s talk. Send me your info on the contact me page.
These are some of the same stories “cutter” Booker shared with me. I’ve moved several times since Katrina and probably lost the tape when two outta three storages were auctioned off.
God is so good, he’ll bless you with three times or seven times as much as you lose when you keep your eyes on the prize.
Now I have an even more detailed account of what he shared with me, written down in your books.
Thanks Cuz
Willie Davis
Willie thanks for reading. I keep up with your FB posts and I see you and your family are doing well, I have all the documents to tell the whole story of how and when our families came to be on Edgefield Plantation. Woodstock is coming up too.
Alvin, Great story! I have family history in Woodville, Wilkinson, MS (Stewart Family). Also, one of my great aunts Laura Smith (1884-1955) is connected to the Minor family from Woodville. I have several Minor families in my tree on Ancestry.com.
Gwendolyn, thanks for reading and sending me a comment.
Hello family was Laura Smith the daughter of Josephine Hays Smith? Because if I’m correct did her greatgrand daughter marry a Minor from Woodville, Mississippi. My great grandmother is Josephine Hays Smith aunt her name was Elizabeth Lizzy Nellie Hays the sister of Littleton Hays born back in early 1800 and her parents were Everett and Malinda Hays from Virginia
Yes I’m interested in the Minor family history..
That’s the surname of my 3rd great grandmother.
I found her in Sunflower & Leflore County MS in 1870.
Vanessa thanks for reading and sending me a comment.
What a delight! Thanks for sharing. I can’t wait to learn more.
Julia thanks for reading. Did your Foley name come from the Foley’s in Woodville?
Great read. I enjoyed the oral history
Alvin,
You certainly have my attention! Thanks for sharing; I can’t wait to read future posts. Monica
Thanks Monica.
Hello family was Laura Smith the daughter of Josephine Hays Smith? Because if I’m correct did her greatgrand daughter marry a Minor from Woodville, Mississippi. My great grandmother is Josephine Hays Smith aunt her name was Elizabeth Lizzy Nellie Hays the sister of Littleton Hays born back in early 1800 and her parents were Everett and Malinda Hays from Virginia
Yes they are
Thanks for sharing. I also have very fond memories of cousin Booker. I spent many hours visiting and learning from him. He was a true gem.
Ronnie thanks for reading. Let’s talk sometimes. Contact me on my blog.
Once again you have shined a light on the families of Woodville that can help current and future researchers. Thank you Cousin for a wonderful blog and I certainly look forward to reading the next one.
Thanks Monica.
Thank you Alvin for your persistence in documenting our family history. Since I’m a descendant of the Veal, Percy and Young families from Solitude, Louisiana, I look forward to reading more of your posts.
Gwen thanks for reading. If I remember correctly, you a descendant of U.S. Civil War Navy Veteran Nelson Veal and his wife Seabey Veal of Solitude, right?
Hello Gwen,my auntie married Johnell Veals,her name was Gloria Jean,she had 2 sons,Johnnell & Alvin Veals,still trying to find some of my mother relatives,We are also related to Charlie Young & Josephine Lane
Amazing work! My maternal family are the Young’s and the Hawkins’. My grandparents also brought me back to Woodville throughout my life to see family and back to where the Ventress Plantation was. Thanks so much for your hard work. My grandfather will be happy when I share with him your hard work.
Dominique, thanks for reading. I know the Hawkins who once lived on Donegal Road.
Such an interesting story Alvin! Thanks for sharing! If only we’d listened better or thought to record when we were being told the family histories when we were younger…me and my cousins were told these stories when we went fishing with our Grandmother! “Talked to death or learned to death”…our research efforts may not have been so cumbersome…yet the rediscovery is well worth it! I simply love the lessons! Thanks for sharing your journey! Keep well!
Thanks for reading Gwen. Write down whatever you remember from the story and find out what is significant behind the story that made them pass it down.
Well done Al. Anxiously awaiting ‘The House of Percy’.
Thanks Dee.
Enjoy your story! I have been researching my family history as well. My dad was the only male I knew in his family and he had 6 sisters. All of them have passed away and I have been trying to find some history on my grandfather and grandmother on my dad’s side of the family. His name was Robert Netterville. Did you know any Netterville ‘s from Woodville MS? I will continue my journey so I can pass it along to my children and grandchildren.
Carrie, thanks for reading. The Netterville name and the Netterville Lumber Company located in the Buffalo area is well known in Woodville.
Enjoyed this Blakes. Keep connecting the dots. What a great family history continuing to unfold.
Thanks for reading Mayo.
Wonderful accomplishment Brotha Alvin! The interviews were priceless.Will there be a book signing at Pan-African Connection?
My friend, when there is a book there will be a book signing. Right now, I am learning the way to tell my ancestor’s story, so that family and others can remember it and learn from it. Thanks for reading.
I got this information from a man in Baton Rouge. My last name is Lanus and both of my parents are from Woodville. Lanus, Fields, Young and Dangerfield. My family has been trying to trace our family genealogy. Im grateful to have seen this post.
Thanks for reading Vanessa. DM me if you have questions.
Vanessa,
I’m also related to the Fields on my maternal side. I would love to hear about your connection to the family.
Very well written Al. I remember how excited you were after this interview with Booker Minor and now I see why. He lit a spark in you that has never diminished. I encourage you to continue on with our family history. Awaiting the next chapter!
Thanks for reading.
I know nothing of our William Scott family who owned land just above todays Lake Mary in the late 1700’s. In fact, William Scott was killed in 1794 at Muscle Shoals AL along with two nephews and several servants. Scott was on a return trip from SC so I don’t know if he took the men with him or they came from SC. Do you know if any of your family was connected to the Scotts? After William Scott was killed his kids were put in foster care. Don’t have any more details.
Hello, Alvin!
I think my family is related from Woodville. Can you provide any information on the Cooper, Lewis,Kelly, Reynolds, Palmer, and Wells.
Teresa, thanks for reading. I recognize all of these as Woodville family names. Send me email on your Lewis family connection.
Thanks to Alvin and everyone who posted. I was born in Woodville on the Ventress property. My maternal grandfather was William “TJ” Tolliver/Toliver Sr He was a Sharecropper there until the late 1950s believe it or not. Lillie Palmer and I are distant cousins!
Thanks Eva.
Eva,
Are you related to Griffin Bethley
Mickey, thanks for reading my blog. I am related to or connected to the Bethleys and Dunbars of Woodville on many sides of my family.
Alvin, I am a descendant of the James clan of Tornert Louisiana,. My Grandfather was Major James and His wife was Rose Fabre. I would love to see what you know about us. My Cuzan has his family in Centreville,Ms.
Im trying to connect some loose ends. My great Grandmother was Bessie Veal and her mother was Laura Smith (Madien name). Both are from woodville. Seeking to obtain additional information and would like to know if I’m headed in the right direction?
Yolanda I will send you an email to discuss.
Many of the Veals came to Baton Rouge, Louisiana as well! My Great grandfather Dunk Veal 1894 born in Pointe Coupe, Louisiana. His Father Thornton P. Veal 1857 born in Wilkinson County, Mississippi, and his father Spaets Veal 1834 born in Wilkinson County, Mississippi. The Veal name touches many states. I saw it change to Veale in the early 1700s❤️
Yolanda try Archives.com. It’s $10 a month, I got very far with my Veal line on there
Are you related to any “Leonards” or “Dunbars” by any chance?
Do you have any history on the plains and cains?
Rosie, I talk about the Plain Family in Part 9 of the Black Families of Edgefield. See https://almostdisappeared.com/black-families-of-edgefield-plantation-woodville-mississippi-part-9/